honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 7:27:29 AM
FuelPump: you're right about the reasons. The sad part is, there is enough regulation already on the books. But what good do laws do when they aren't enforced?
The consumer loses more than once. And these are so easily preventable situations, but Pig Oil appears to rather reap near record profits quarter after quarter than pay money to maintain the refineries.
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FuelPump

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 2:20:30 PM
As I said before, there are only two reasons a refinery fire can occur. Equipment failure, which means either inadequate maintenance, or poor design, perhaps in an attempt to save money and increase profits, or human error, meaning the people running the refinery are either inadequately trained, or are taking cost saving shorcuts. Either way the problem is the refinery's not the consumer, yet guess who gets to pay for the problem? Yep the consumer loses again. These constant 'accidents' at various refineries are the kind of events to lead to more regulation and government intervention. There is something very wrong with this whole picture!!!!
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J Eric

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:58:24 PM
Prices went up 12 cents a gallon over the past two days -- at USA Gasoline, which has its own refinery locally.
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strakey

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California
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:56:41 PM
this is pure bull***t, this fire has absolutely nothing to do with the gas prices!! this kind of logic is like charging your work a ton of money because you broke your foot at home!!! does this make any sense? NOPE!
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vcsuksu21

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 2:30:50 PM
ok
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txrojo2005

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Austin
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 12:09:44 PM
Prices have already has jumped.
[Edited by: txrojo2005 at 8/8/2012 3:10:19 PM EST]
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Alfied

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 9:13:57 AM
Up and down, up and down, makes the world go around.
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tomok

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Portland
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 9:12:00 AM
Another refinery fire? What's with all of the refinery fires lately? Does Big Oil have a plan in the background to keep prices extremely high? We don't know what Big Oil has up their sleeve, they can do what they want! When will all refineries have far superior fire suppression devices to smother the fire immediately with foam, etc.! Instead they let refineries burn, burn, burn. Here comes higher prices at the pump. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012
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bell05

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 9:09:57 AM
Yesterday news
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Gmsclecarparts

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 8:37:06 AM
"warn the public before it caught fire" LOL
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reeneedan

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 8:10:23 AM
this was a diesel unit that caught fire so why is gas going up. I would like to know how long they knew that this unit was leaking and why they did'nt warn the public before it caught fire since their fire department was there watching this unit for hours before it caught fire. I know this was an accident but its stuff like this that makes it look like big oil could care less about the people who live near their refineries and consumers who buy their product
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Fitwit

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Stockton
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 8:08:49 AM
I wish they wouldn't.
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AriesMMD

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 8:08:04 AM
up, down, up and up again, what else is new?
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ethanol_is_bad

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Boise
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 8:07:17 AM
CA, the state that keeps on giving...
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Double_Golden

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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 8:05:49 AM
already see the price hike at the pump...
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LongPlay

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Albuquerque
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 8:00:22 AM
CA gets what it deserves!
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Black Wagon

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:59:47 AM
Now they will have an excuse to raise prices all across the country.
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gasper

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Edmonton
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:59:40 AM
I wonder when they will get their act together and get things right.
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RockCity

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Denver
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:56:08 AM
You'd think the insurance arson investigators would have a convincing mo into these six week apart refinery fires, perhaps.
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tco9436

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Connecticut
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:55:31 AM
Joke!
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SUSANCK

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:54:48 AM
Not good...
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TBecker1415

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:54:33 AM
ok
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RUNNINONEMPTYFL

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Florida
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:54:16 AM
Here we go again...
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Martillo

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:53:49 AM
Bad News.
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dickboyOC

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Orlando
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:53:32 AM
Gotta love it.
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SandeeC

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:53:06 AM
Any excuse to raise pump prices.
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belladog

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Mobile
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:52:55 AM
ok
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fcdriver

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:51:48 AM
one day we will find better alternatives then we wont worry about stuff like this
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9C1

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:50:52 AM
The oil companies will post record profits again.
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packards42

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Washington
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:50:48 AM
Everybody, get prepared for price increase.
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firechief

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New York
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:49:57 AM
boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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BCM1

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:48:18 AM
The people need gas to get to work. The refinery fire didn't help consumers.
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DougtheEconMan

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Akron
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:48:14 AM
KEEP YOUR TANKS FULL! Early last week, I started posting my concern over how many refineries went down or were down for emergency repair. Four in the Midwest and a pipeline, over and above the scheduled shutdowns. Since then, a fire in Tulsa plant, and now in California. I will continue to post...KEEP YOUR TANKS AND GAS CANS FULL! We may be facing higher prices and possible spot shortages in the next 5 or 6 weeks.
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N4PIP

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Miami
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:47:33 AM
Though the fire is not good news at all, this will be used as an excuse to drive up prices across America. I think the oil companies should eat the expense, not consumers.
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computernut2008

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:47:22 AM
Sure it will ....GREED
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mikesr11

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New York City
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:46:30 AM
WAS OBAMA IN CALIFORNIA PLAYING WITH MATCHES?
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FJCruiserCA

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California
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:46:05 AM
Yep :-(
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radstoy

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:45:52 AM
old news
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regasaz

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:44:20 AM
Same comment as yesterday when first posted.
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craigrm

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Connecticut
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:44:17 AM
yikes
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smqua

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:43:02 AM
Seem to be quite a few refinery fires
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chyguy3

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Wyoming
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:42:33 AM
Just Calif???? I don't think so! It will be used as an excuse for everybody raising their price.
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bindox

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Chico
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:42:21 AM
Hey dlemma, if you don't what you're talking about, STFU. Not everyone in Cali is an Obummer lover. Some of us were not duped by the hype and fake birth certificate.
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OaklandInvaders

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:42:09 AM
Fire Contained that's good news. Now repair and revisions
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Amanstrom

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:41:59 AM
Yup, as if it wasn't high enough already.
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Bill100

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:41:23 AM
No sh_t!
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JXQW

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Kansas City
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:40:24 AM
Doh!!
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kosciak

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Hartford
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:39:44 AM
old news
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bart_reed

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:39:39 AM
Stop the overseas exports to fill domestic supply.
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bridgerunner

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:38:55 AM
California, ya gotta love 'em.
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